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#1 Varwulf

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Posted 19 October 2016 - 05:28 AM

Greetings friends.  I won't waste much of your time and just cut right to the chase.  Some time ago (year or two) I read a post on some forum regarding this great mod's compatibility with Icewind Dale, but I've not found any evidence recently to confirm or deny this (other than compatibility lists leaving Icewind Dale out of it).

 

I was just hoping for a quick confirmation or denial on that matter.  I certainly appreciate your time! :)



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Posted 19 October 2016 - 05:33 AM

Greetings friends.  I won't waste much of your time and just cut right to the chase.  Some time ago (year or two) I read a post on some forum regarding this great mod's compatibility with Icewind Dale, but I've not found any evidence recently to confirm or deny this (other than compatibility lists leaving Icewind Dale out of it).

 

I was just hoping for a quick confirmation or denial on that matter.  I certainly appreciate your time! :)


Edited by Roxanne, 20 October 2016 - 09:25 AM.

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Posted 19 October 2016 - 05:35 AM

The code doesn't mention iwdee anywhere, but it does support the other ees, including eet. It's all the same engine, so perhaps you could just do a naive search and replace first.


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Posted 19 October 2016 - 05:39 AM

The code doesn't mention iwdee anywhere, but it does support the other ees, including eet. It's all the same engine, so perhaps you could just do a naive search and replace first.


Edited by Roxanne, 20 October 2016 - 09:25 AM.

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Posted 19 October 2016 - 05:58 AM

yeah, but that requires all the ee games, right?


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Posted 19 October 2016 - 06:08 AM

yeah, but that requires all the ee games, right?


Edited by Roxanne, 20 October 2016 - 09:25 AM.

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Posted 20 October 2016 - 09:11 AM

IWDEE-in-EET is not ready yet, pointing him there is not helpful.

If you want to to use the Song & Silence mod with IWDEE, worst-case scenario, you have to open the .tp2 file with a good text editor and do a find/replace operation changing

"bgee"

to

"bgee iwdee"

...everywhere there is a "GAME_IS ~..." clause.

Best-case scenario, you don't even have to do that. Just install it and play. I forget whether it's necessary, but I have definitely played IWDEE with S&S so it's certainly possible. You won't get the items or stores, but you'll get the kits and tweaks.

If you have a hard time making it work, and you want new kits for thieves and bards, try Might & Guile, a mod I made to replace S&S when it wasn't compatible with the EEs.

Faiths & Powers: Spell spheres and kit pack for priests and paladins
Might & Guile: Tweaks and kits for warriors and rogues
Scales of Balance: Game tweaks and rule overhauls
NPC_EE: More options for NPCs in BGEE, SoD, & BG2EE


#8 Varwulf

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Posted 25 October 2016 - 07:16 AM

IWDEE-in-EET is not ready yet, pointing him there is not helpful.

If you want to to use the Song & Silence mod with IWDEE, worst-case scenario, you have to open the .tp2 file with a good text editor and do a find/replace operation changing

"bgee"

to

"bgee iwdee"

...everywhere there is a "GAME_IS ~..." clause.

Best-case scenario, you don't even have to do that. Just install it and play. I forget whether it's necessary, but I have definitely played IWDEE with S&S so it's certainly possible. You won't get the items or stores, but you'll get the kits and tweaks.

If you have a hard time making it work, and you want new kits for thieves and bards, try Might & Guile, a mod I made to replace S&S when it wasn't compatible with the EEs.

 

Thank you sir, this is exactly the answer I was looking for.  Though the other posts mentioning the IWDEE-EET mod were useful, this is precisely what I was hoping to hear.

 

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Posted 25 October 2016 - 08:51 AM

Yeah don't get me wrong, once IWD-in-EET is ready that will likely become the main way I play the game. But it's just not there yet. And in the meantime there's no need to wait.

Faiths & Powers: Spell spheres and kit pack for priests and paladins
Might & Guile: Tweaks and kits for warriors and rogues
Scales of Balance: Game tweaks and rule overhauls
NPC_EE: More options for NPCs in BGEE, SoD, & BG2EE


#10 Varwulf

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Posted 25 October 2016 - 12:54 PM

That said, I am curious about Might & Guile, but the main reason I didn't go that route was--some of the classes in S&S I am excited about seem to be omitted.  I'm wondering how much work it might be to simply incorporate said classes to M&G...



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Posted 25 October 2016 - 04:38 PM

Depends. The S&S thief kits cannot be made to work with the M&G feat system. But the feat system doesn't work with IWDEE anyway. (Yet. it requires EE 2.0+.)

So, setting aside feats, you can absolutely mix 'n' match the thief and bard kits from both mods. The Sharpshooter and Sniper step on each other's toes a bit, but you can use whichever you prefer. :)

Faiths & Powers: Spell spheres and kit pack for priests and paladins
Might & Guile: Tweaks and kits for warriors and rogues
Scales of Balance: Game tweaks and rule overhauls
NPC_EE: More options for NPCs in BGEE, SoD, & BG2EE


#12 Varwulf

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Posted 26 October 2016 - 06:18 AM

Awesome, you've given me more to ponder on.  I appreciate your taking the time :)



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Posted 26 October 2016 - 12:52 PM

Yeah, i like mixing the two mods. especially on the bard side, I love having something like:
- Bard
- Blade
- Jester
- Skald
- Dirgesinger
- Gallant
- Loremaster
- Meistersinger

It's like, all of the kits from the 2e Complete Bard's handbook! So fun.

I actually played half a game of IWDEE with an all-bard party:
Gallant and Skald up front
Blade and Meistersinger in the middle
Loremaster and a cleric/thief in back

It was pretty fun! Not easy though.

Faiths & Powers: Spell spheres and kit pack for priests and paladins
Might & Guile: Tweaks and kits for warriors and rogues
Scales of Balance: Game tweaks and rule overhauls
NPC_EE: More options for NPCs in BGEE, SoD, & BG2EE


#14 Varwulf

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Posted 27 October 2016 - 10:47 AM

I can imagine--that was actually my intent, was to do an all bard run myself.  The party I have in mind consists of more than one Gypsy, however--so I imagine the difficulty curve might climb a touch with that thought in mind :)





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