Saradas Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 (edited) Hi all. My testing on Saradas Magic 2 for Throne of Bhaal has just finished. Now my mod features new contents for the last chapter of the Bhaalspawns saga. What's new in Saradas Magic 2 for Throne of Bhaal? In Throne of Bhaal Saradas is finally a recruitable NPC! You can summon him through the Fate Spirit in your pocket plane. He is a human Priest of Lathander dual-classed to Mage. His stats are: http://imageshack.com/a/img546/2530/qd26.png STR 10 DEX 13 CON 14 INT 18 WIS 20 CHA 15 Background: Saradas is an old mage who has spent his entire life traveling throughout Faerun. His homeland is Sembia, where he has a old house in the city of Yhaunn. He was a priest of Lathander with an innate interest for all the forms of magic. So he started getting more and more interested in studying the arcane arts and ancient artifacts and dedicated his life to this purpose. Before he met the Gorion's ward, he thought that his days as an adventurer were finished, but his interest towards the son of Bhaal grew stronger and decided to follow his path. Saradas is a very wise man indeed and he always tries to share his knowledge with the young ones, in his own cryptic way. He doesn't speak much about his past and his trust is hardly earned, but he can be a very good friend to those who prove worthy of his time. In a conversation with Imoen, she will eventually find out that Saradas is more than he shows... Spoiler In his youth, he used to cooperate with a renowned organization that Jaheira knows very well and that seeks to mantain balance in Faerun. Between all the companion of the Bhaalspawn, Saradas will start a good friendship with one in particular, a venerable paladin of Torm. Below is a short conversation between the two of them: Spoiler K - What will you do when our journey is over, Saradas? S - I think I will finally come back to my house, in Sembia. My hometown is Yhaunn, a quiet coastal city. There I will finally rest after my long travels. K - Sounds like a good place to rest after retiring from adventure. S - It really is, and you will always be welcome there, if you plan to visit me in Sembia, Lord Keldorn. K - I surely will. Oh and by the way there's no need of such titles between friends, Saradas. Just call me Keldorn. S - Fair enough, Keldorn. You will find the best Cormyrian wines waiting for you, there. But now we must focus on our journey, it's not over yet and our minds should not indulge too much on such pleasant thoughts. K - You are wise as always. Let's continue our path. Moreover, Saradas will speak often with the son of Bhaal to interrogate him on his future decisions. The wizard doesn't plan to interfere in his destiny, but will try to make him ponder on the power he controls, to guide him to a wise decision. Obviously, Saradas will not take part in evil deeds because of his good nature and will leave the party if that is the case. Saradas features: Banters and dialogues with many of the original BioWare NPCs He expresses his thoughts regaring events and dialogues He has a custom ring 6 different epilogues 1 custom skill Dialogues with the protagonist and... A small but enjoyable easter egg for all the Lord of The Rings lovers like me I wait for your feedbacks DOWNLOAD: Saradas Magic 2 v1.6 Note from Mike1072 added on 2020-11-05: Quote An updated version of this mod has been provided by @Austin, adding compatibility with EET and classic BG2. The full list of changes and download link for the new version can be found in this post. Edited November 5, 2020 by Mike1072 Quote Link to comment
LiellaMod Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Hey Saradas! Is this mod compatible with BG2:EE? I'm currently doing a playthrough and i'd love to try him out . Quote Link to comment
Saradas Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 hi yes it is 100% compatible with enhanced edition and you can install it at any time of your playthrough without problems. Keep in mind that Saradas becomes a joinable NPC only in ToB, in SoA he sells custom spells, enchants special items (waukeen tiara, shadow stone, symbol of Amaunator, mask of king strohm, book of kaza, shaman staff) and at some point of the story he can teach you a special spell depending on your mage school. Quote Link to comment
LiellaMod Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Excellent! Thank you very much, i'll be sure to give you updates and opinions as i get to ToB in my current playthrough . Quote Link to comment
Saradas Posted February 17, 2014 Author Share Posted February 17, 2014 Thanks, I'm looking forward to it Quote Link to comment
lynx Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 he seems a bit overpowered when you look at his stats. typo: "Gorion's warden" -> "Gorion's ward" And yes, message theacefes to get some attention. Quote Link to comment
Saradas Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 (edited) Thanks for your correction, lynx. The mental stats may seem a little bit overpowered, but they actually balance with the physical ones and are in line with his background. His strength is terrible and dexterity is pretty bad too. Constitution is not that terrible but still improvable. Moreover, his starting experience points are 2'500'000, making him a Cleric14/Mage13. So he is a weak, squishy mage for the first part of ToB, improving when he finally regains his cleric class back. At cleric14/Mage>17 he starts showing is great potential. So basically he is very strong in the half part of ToB, yes, but I would hardly call him overpowered. Edited February 24, 2014 by Saradas Quote Link to comment
lynx Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 His dexterity and constitution are fine for a cleric and isn't 10-11 the normal stat/strength for a human? Add a good charisma and godly wisdom and you have a superhero. Sum his stat points and compare to original NPCs if you want a more data-driven proof. Quote Link to comment
Saradas Posted February 24, 2014 Author Share Posted February 24, 2014 Sarevok has a total of 95 stat points, Keldorn 89 and Saradas 90. If you consider that Saradas has spent his life adventuring throughout Faerun, his stats value is high but not godly. Keldorn is an old paladin, that justifies his high stats; the same goes with Saradas. I like to think that with age, pysical stats decrease and mental ones increase their value. But ok, if in the future I receive many reporting about his high stats I will rebalance them without problem. Quote Link to comment
Cahir Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I kinda agree that his stats are a little bit too high. Even Elminster, who was one of the most powerful wizards in the Realms and a Chosen of Mystra, had only Int 18 and Wis 18 according to his 2ed stats in Heroes' Lorebook. Personally,I'd lower his Wis to 18 at least. Quote Link to comment
kreso Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Fwiw, I don't find 20 WIS and 18 INT OP. Int is borderline useless, high WIS allows for succefull Wish castings and some extra low level spell slots, but nothing much. 90 total is high, but again, considering this is ToB character, I bet that CHARNAME surpasses him stats-wise in 90% cases.... Quote Link to comment
Twani Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 I wouldn't install an NPC with stats that high, generally. I'd definitely put the WIS back down to 18, and actually lower the physical stats so they make using him a tradeoff- has high mental stats, but low physical stats. As it is, he's no different from any other mage NPC in game: his physical stats are perfectly fine for a mage NPC. If he's that old, why is his CON that high? Push it down to 8, make traveling with him actually hard rather then an easy button., Quote Link to comment
Saradas Posted February 25, 2014 Author Share Posted February 25, 2014 I kinda agree that his stats are a little bit too high. Even Elminster, who was one of the most powerful wizards in the Realms and a Chosen of Mystra, had only Int 18 and Wis 18 according to his 2ed stats in Heroes' Lorebook. Personally,I'd lower his Wis to 18 at least. alright, I see your point. Elminster's stats: STR 13 DEX 18 CON 14 INT 18 WIS 18 CHA 17 TOTAL = 98 Saradas's stats: STR 10 DEX 13 CON 14 INT 18 WIS 20 CHA 15 TOTAL = 90 8 points more make a huge difference, imho. Fwiw, I don't find 20 WIS and 18 INT OP. Int is borderline useless, high WIS allows for succefull Wish castings and some extra low level spell slots, but nothing much. 90 total is high, but again, considering this is ToB character, I bet that CHARNAME surpasses him stats-wise in 90% cases.... I chose his stats exactly because of this. 18 int 20 wis are hardly game breaking stats... I wouldn't install an NPC with stats that high, generally. I'd definitely put the WIS back down to 18, and actually lower the physical stats so they make using him a tradeoff- has high mental stats, but low physical stats. As it is, he's no different from any other mage NPC in game: his physical stats are perfectly fine for a mage NPC. If he's that old, why is his CON that high? Push it down to 8, make traveling with him actually hard rather then an easy button., I can assure you he is very squishy when you recruit him. A fireball + 1 hit can easily dispatch him. You can try my mod anytime and see that by yourself. by the way thanks for all your feedbacks, I appreciate it. There's always time to make a mod better/more balanced Quote Link to comment
Kulyok Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 From the point of a powergamer, you can make him ten times as useful with fewer stat count. Take your average cookie-cutter build with good CON, nice DEX and WIS 18 for Wish spell: STR 8 DEX 17 CON 16 INT 15 WIS 18 CHA 10 TOTAL = 84 I don't mind 90 stat sum, I just think he'd be pretty squishy - maybe too squishy for the party of Sarevok, Anomen and other juggernauts. As it is, CON 14 is equal to CON 7 in terms of hit points, INT 18 just gives ~15 lore, WIS 20 - a bit more lore, and that's all, CHA 15 gives nothing, DEX 13 gives nothing more than DEX 10. Quote Link to comment
AL|EN Posted December 27, 2014 Share Posted December 27, 2014 (edited) Hi Saradas, please add you mod to G3/SHS Downloads section or provide unchangeable download link for you mod because the mediafire.com link require manual interaction and cannot be downloaded by BWS. Thanks. Edited December 27, 2014 by ALIENQuake Quote Link to comment
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