Old version needed

[Senka]

Well, folks, I had very special request. I need the OLD version of tutu-tweak, based on WeiDU-185. I need BGT-tweak too, and based on 185, too. Anybody can help me?

[the bigg]

Why would you need such a thing?

[Senka]

Why would you need such a thing?

Because some newest and oldest versions do not understand each other . It simple.

[the bigg]

So, is it a bug with newer WeiDUs (that I can fix) or what?

[Senka]

So, is it a bug with newer WeiDUs (that I can fix) or what?

I'm not specialist and I don't know. But mods writing on newest version (after 185) has some problem with compatibility with modes writing on 185 and earlest.

 

Nobody have old tutu-tweak?

[the bigg]

So, which fucking mods are having problems with WeiDU > 185? I can (try to) fix them.

However, to my knowledge there is nothing in WeiDU > 185 that has the known effect of destroying mods written for older WeiDUs.

[Senka]

I strongly doubt you would try All I ask - the old version of tutu-tweak. And nothing more . Relax, this is not your problem. It's mine.

[the bigg]

I strongly doubt you would try

In that case, fuck Vlad for telling you that, and fuck you too for believing him.

 

I never refused to try to fix every bug I've been reported, so stop throwing false accusations. Being unable to reproduce a bug (which is the first needed step to fixing bugs) is an entirely different matter from refusing to fix one. And I didn't refuse to fix the bug in CHAIN reported by Vlad, he was unable to prepare a test case for me to work on without forcing me to illegally download a game I don't own.

[Caedwyr]

I think the bigg's point is that other people may run across the same problem, and he'd like to know which mods are having compatibility issues that may involve the weidu version. This way if he gets the info now and fixes it early it saves him a lot of people down the road complaining about the newer versions of Weidu causing older mods to be incompatible.

[CamDawg]

Yes, settle down everyone.

 

Caedwyr's right--WeiDU is supposed to be backwards-compatible (and also auto-updates) so if newer versions aren't working equal to or better than older versions, it's something that needs to be fixed promptly.

 

If you need an older version of Tweaks because of compatibility issues with Tweaks itself, then that's also something that needs to be reported so it can be fixed.

[cmorgan]

Plus, what you are asking for is tough to find, unless someone has an ancient archived uninstalled .exe lying around for research purposes, you may not have any luck. (No dice -here - nothing older than the early 190's). WeiDU auto-updates when run, so finding anything that many versions ago will be tough.

 

Best bet is to post the problem, as these folks have all said, so the bigg can either fix it or let you know that it is not a problem (there are alot of misconceptions about what an "error" is vs what a "warning" is - some errors cause problems in-game, and some are just warnings that a modder has not coded carefully or correctly enough (I have a ton of these in BG1 NPC that I need to go and "fix", but they have no problems functioning in-game )

[Senka]

Yes, settle down everyone.

Exactly

 

Well, I need the newest versions of mods can work on WeiDU-185. Is it possible? Because when I try to install BGT-tweak or BG2-tweak using WeiDU-185, I receive error-message.

 

In that case, fuck Vlad for telling you that, and fuck you too for believing him.

You are right. I'm working with Vlad's mod. But I don't want to hear such things about my friend.

 

Plus, what you are asking for is tough to find, unless someone has an ancient archived uninstalled .exe lying around for research purposes, you may not have any luck. (No dice -here - nothing older than the early 190's).

Really? You always kill previous versions? Well, I love Kelsey-1 and hate Kelsey-2... I have some doubt Kelsey-1 would work prorerly with WeiDU-198. This is only example, folks, don't be and

[CamDawg]

Well, I need the newest versions of mods can work on WeiDU-185. Is it possible? Because when I try to install BGT-tweak or BG2-tweak using WeiDU-185, I receive error-message.

Yes, because modders take advantage of the new functionality in versions later than v185. If a mod is written with v185 (or earlier), there should be no reason it won't work with the current v198 or anything in between. If a bug prevents this it needs to be fixed.

 

If there's some non-technical reason why you wish to only use WeiDU prior to v185 I'd love to hear it.

 

Really? You always kill previous versions? Well, I love Kelsey-1 and hate Kelsey-2... I have some doubt Kelsey-1 would work prorerly with WeiDU-198. This is only example, folks, don't be and

Unless Kelsey is coded really, really badly (and it's not) it should work with whatever version of WeiDU for which it was coded, or any later version. That's what backwards compatibility means.

[Senka]

Look... I'm only user and I'm stupid woman. The modder said me: my mod is uncompatible with newest version of WeiDU. I beleive him - why not? He is the master, he knows his mod, yes?

You see there is only technical reason...

[the bigg]

Look... I'm only user and I'm stupid woman. The modder said me: my mod is uncompatible with newest version of WeiDU. I beleive him - why not? He is the master, he knows his mod, yes?

You see there is only technical reason...

Being a modder doesn't mean that you are the voice of truth. There are numerous well-known modders (such as Vlad) who can't tell their ass from their head and like to claim everybody's work but theirs is buggy if any problem arose with their mods. I'm not going to download and install any mod by Vlad (given his utter incompetence, arrogant cluelessness, and his habit of doing illegal / shitty / redundant mods), but I challenge him to find any difference in the override folders of NeJ installed with 185 as opposed to NeJ installed with 198 and provide a test case for the bug (and, notably, in this case the claim "I can't spend all day comparing binary files" is not a valid excuse, since there are programs to compare directory of files for differences, such as the ubiquitous diff).

 

Of course, this is not the first time that Vlad claims that something he doesn't like is incompatible with his stuff without being able of providing any reason why, while condescending administrators silently remove all posts that contradict his claims.

 

Well, I love Kelsey-1 and hate Kelsey-2... I have some doubt Kelsey-1 would work prorerly with WeiDU-198.

Kelsey-2 was already out when I first stumbled upon BG modding, and it ships a WeiDU version in the whereabouts 130, and worked perfectly the last time I installed it (probably WeiDU 196), not to mention numerous other mods who had a painless translation to newer WeiDUs (I.E. all the ones I tried). If Vlad claims to have problems with WeiDU > 185, then I'd guess that he was either really unlucky, wrote code taking advantage of a later fixed bug, or is just full of shit. I happen to believe the third, especially since this is not the first time he claims incompatibility due to political calculus rather than real problems.