SimDing0 Posted February 25, 2005 Share Posted February 25, 2005 Oh, come on... who decided it'd be a good idea to set the infinite supply flag on the Ring of Air Control and Ring of Animal Friendship in Ribald's store? I suspect there are other items in various stores with this flag set inappropriately (you should obviously only get one of each of the above-- the Animal Friendship one certainly has a description implying that it's unique). DLTCEP has the facility to report all occurances of the infinite item flag. Link to comment
igi Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 I've been through DLTCEP's store 'error' list, looking at the infinite flag (I ignored anything else). I think it's ok for stores to sell infinite amounts of Darts, Arrows, Bolts, Bullets, Throwing Axes, Throwing Daggers and Antidotes. This is everything else which has the infinite flag set 25SPELL2 Infinite flag set for stocked item #61. Shadow Door Scroll Infinite flag set for stocked item #209. Potion of Healing Infinite flag set for stocked item #223. Potion of Extra Healing ARLED Infinite flag set for stocked item #30. Katana +1 Infinite flag set for stocked item #31. Two Handed Sword +1 Infinite flag set for stocked item #44. Halberd +1 GORCH Infinite flag set for stocked item #4. Mace +2 Infinite flag set for stocked item #13. Spear THUMB Infinite flag set for stocked item #25. Spear Infinite flag set for stocked item #33. History Of The Fateful Coin HGKAR01 Infinite flag set for stocked item #23. Club +3 LEHTINAN Infinite flag set for stocked item #31. Spear Infinite flag set for stocked item #50. History Of The Fateful Coin SARTEM01 Infinite flag set for stocked item #13. Elven Holy Water PPSTOR01 Infinite flag set for stocked item #43. Dart +1 HENDAK Infinite flag set for stocked item #44. Spear 25SPELL Infinite flag set for stocked item #207. Potion of Healing FFBART Infinite flag set for stocked item #25. Spear Infinite flag set for stocked item #33. History Of The Fateful Coin TRMER04A Infinite flag set for stocked item #12. Two Handed Sword +2 TRGENI01 Infinite flag set for stocked item #30. Katana +1 Infinite flag set for stocked item #31. Two Handed Sword +1 Infinite flag set for stocked item #44. Halberd +1 MERCHANT Infinite flag set for stocked item #16. Spear TRINNK01 Infinite flag set for stocked item #4. Club Infinite flag set for stocked item #5. Flail Infinite flag set for stocked item #15. Dagger Infinite flag set for stocked item #20. Helmet Infinite flag set for stocked item #36. Sling Infinite flag set for stocked item #37. Spear Infinite flag set for stocked item #38. Quarterstaff TYPE2 Infinite flag set for stocked item #5. Splint Mail +1 Infinite flag set for stocked item #14. Katana +1 Infinite flag set for stocked item #37. Potion of Agility SHOP07 Infinite flag set for stocked item #21. Spear Infinite flag set for stocked item #41. Large Shield RIBALD Infinite flag set for stocked item #24. Spear Infinite flag set for stocked item #133. Ring of Air Control Infinite flag set for stocked item #135. Ring of Animal Friendship INN2616 Infinite flag set for stocked item #3. Club Infinite flag set for stocked item #10. Dagger Infinite flag set for stocked item #15. Sling Infinite flag set for stocked item #17. Quarterstaff Infinite flag set for stocked item #22. Scimitar Infinite flag set for stocked item #35. Buckler Infinite flag set for stocked item #36. Buckler Infinite flag set for stocked item #37. Buckler Infinite flag set for stocked item #44. Helmet BDBART01 Infinite flag set for stocked item #25. Spear Infinite flag set for stocked item #33. History of the Fateful Coin SHOP03 Infinite flag set for stocked item #40. Bullet +1 TRMER04 Infinite flag set for stocked item #32. Potion of Agility SHOP04 Infinite flag set for stocked item #11. Spear Infinite flag set for stocked item #28. Potion of Healing UDDROW23 Infinite flag set for stocked item #16. Harbinger +3 RIBALD2 Infinite flag set for stocked item #35. Potion of Agility RIBALD3 Infinite flag set for stocked item #15. Warblade +4 Infinite flag set for stocked item #16. Two Handed Sword +2 Infinite flag set for stocked item #31. Heartseeker +3 Infinite flag set for stocked item #50. Freedom Scroll UHINN01 Store selling flag not set, but there is stock. Infinite flag set for stocked item #4. Club Infinite flag set for stocked item #5. Flail Infinite flag set for stocked item #15. Dagger Infinite flag set for stocked item #20. Helmet Infinite flag set for stocked item #36. Sling Infinite flag set for stocked item #37. Spear Infinite flag set for stocked item #38. Quarterstaff BINNKEEP Infinite flag set for stocked item #7. Club Infinite flag set for stocked item #8. Flail Infinite flag set for stocked item #16. Dagger Infinite flag set for stocked item #20. Helmet Infinite flag set for stocked item #36. Sling Infinite flag set for stocked item #37. Spear Infinite flag set for stocked item #38. Quarterstaff AMBAR01 Infinite flag set for stocked item #4. Club Infinite flag set for stocked item #5. Flail Infinite flag set for stocked item #15. Dagger Infinite flag set for stocked item #20. Helmet Infinite flag set for stocked item #36. Sling Infinite flag set for stocked item #37. Spear Infinite flag set for stocked item #38. Quarterstaff Link to comment
SConrad Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Anyone fixing this, or should I? Link to comment
devSin Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Ask Cam if he's going to put my stuff in, since I touch just about every store in the game. Link to comment
SimDing0 Posted February 26, 2005 Author Share Posted February 26, 2005 I think stuff like infinite staffs doesn't need fixing. We need to examine each store case-by-case. Link to comment
CamDawg Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Yeah, stuff like nonmagical infinite clubs, flails, slings is not something I'm terribly worried about. However, anything magical should definitely be limited, and anything vaguely unique needs to be set down to only one instance--Ring of Air Control, Warblade, etc. Link to comment
igi Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Well, the list shows every infinite item (baring the items I posted previously). I don't mind infinite staff's, or infinite flails, etc, but I'd prefer some consistency - to me it doens't make sense that some stores have infinite clubs, whereas others don't. Link to comment
Ghreyfain Posted February 26, 2005 Share Posted February 26, 2005 Some magical items seem to make sense, however. An infinite supply of Freedom Scrolls at ribald's place, while sort of silly in a realism sense, it probably an intentional designer decision. I would also like to selfishly request that if mundame items become limited, that spears remain infinite, since some of us use 'em as ranged weapons. Link to comment
SConrad Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 I offered. No one picked me up on it. I'm still willing to do it. Link to comment
NiGHTMARE Posted March 27, 2005 Share Posted March 27, 2005 I think that certain potions (i.e. the lower power ones) should be infinite. After all, many of them just require a few herbs and perhaps a minor incantation. Link to comment
igi Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 I think it's not fixed, as we don't agree on how to fix it. Do we have no infinite items, do we standardise existing infinite items (so all shops will have infinite clubs, instead of only some shops), or do we say "well, these should be infinite, even though they aren't flagged such in any shop. and these should be infinite too, cos they aren't hard to make. and these, cos they are shiny". Or something. My vote is that any item flagged as infinite in 1 or more shops should be flagged as infinite in all shops. Items that are not flagged as infinite anywhere should be left alone. Link to comment
SimDing0 Posted March 28, 2005 Author Share Posted March 28, 2005 I actually think we should remove basically all the infinite flags, since they're inconsistent enough to border on mistakes. Why does the Thumb have infinite spears but 5 of every other weapon? In fact, why the fuck are spears so damn popular anyway? Everybody seems to have an infinite supply of them, which is SURELY an error when other weapons are in relatively short supply. However, these are the things I think we should certainly be looking at removing the flag from, with reasons, even if nobody else is in favour of removing all the flags. 25SPELL2Infinite flag set for stocked item #61. Shadow Door Scroll Why Shadow Door but no other scrolls? There's no reason for this particular one to be infin ARLEDInfinite flag set for stocked item #30. Katana +1 Infinite flag set for stocked item #31. Two Handed Sword +1 Infinite flag set for stocked item #44. Halberd +1 This guy has 1 of other +1 weapons. The infinite flag is likely a mistake, since it rather unbalances his weapon suppy, and I don't believe enchanted items should be infinite anyway. GORCHInfinite flag set for stocked item #4. Mace +2 High enchantment. No way should this be infinite in ToB, let alone SoA. HGKAR01Infinite flag set for stocked item #23. Club +3 Enchantment. TRMER04AInfinite flag set for stocked item #12. Two Handed Sword +2 Enchantment. TRGENI01Infinite flag set for stocked item #30. Katana +1 Infinite flag set for stocked item #31. Two Handed Sword +1 Infinite flag set for stocked item #44. Halberd +1 As ARLED. STO file was probably copied, which would also explain everybody having infinite fucking spears. TYPE2Infinite flag set for stocked item #5. Splint Mail +1 Infinite flag set for stocked item #14. Katana +1 Infinite flag set for stocked item #37. Potion of Agility Enchanted weapons-- same argument as above. The Potion of Agility has a number set in the stock field, so the infinite flag is an error. RIBALDInfinite flag set for stocked item #133. Ring of Air Control Infinite flag set for stocked item #135. Ring of Animal Friendship If anybody argues that these should be infinite then I am joining the Saradush Watering Hole Fixpack. TRMER04Infinite flag set for stocked item #32. Potion of Agility Probably copied from TYPE2. Same argument. UDDROW23Infinite flag set for stocked item #16. Harbinger +3 YES I THINK THIS SHOULD BE INFINITE BECAUSE I WANT DUAL HARBINGERS LOLOLOLOLOL RIBALD2Infinite flag set for stocked item #35. Potion of Agility Once again. RIBALD3Infinite flag set for stocked item #15. Warblade +4 Infinite flag set for stocked item #16. Two Handed Sword +2 Infinite flag set for stocked item #31. Heartseeker +3 Infinite flag set for stocked item #50. Freedom Scroll I don't believe this store ever shows up ingame. UHINN01Store selling flag not set, but there is stock. There's a different bug cunningly concealed here. Set the flag so it sells stuff. Oh, except not having anything for sale is part of the whole Umar Hills quest thing isn't it? Link to comment
SimDing0 Posted March 28, 2005 Author Share Posted March 28, 2005 I'm not fixing the fucking quotes. Link to comment
CamDawg Posted March 28, 2005 Share Posted March 28, 2005 Outside of regular ammunition (arrows, bullets, bolts, etc), I can't see a store having an infinte supply of anything. I feel the ammo is a stretch anyway, but I could at least see it. Unfortunately, I don't think we can handle this with a REGEXP patch--in addition to the slow execution, it would lead to a situation where X shopkeeper has 5 of everything, except what we just removed the flag from, of which he has only 3. (A vague example, but I hope it made sense.) Seb, if you're still willing, take a look through the files for these flags and start posting results and fix proposals. I'd suggest Sim's list as a good starting point. Link to comment
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