why the install order

[Feyd of the Faded]

Perhaps this is better placed in the BGT forum, but I'll wager someone here knows the definite answer.

 

It is stated that BG2FP should be applied to the BG2 install before applying BGT. Why is this?

 

Would installing FP after BGT make any difference at all?

[Jarno Mikkola]

Would installing FP after BGT make any difference at all?

Yes, your worldmap.wmp would be totally screwed... well that was at least with a few versions before the current one. The reason is actually that the Fixpack is trying to be the standard first mod to be installed, with a few exceptions like the Ascension mod(that's a long tale too)... And you probably are instrested in the BGT-weidu, not the old non-weidu version that's not compatible with anything, basically.

[Feyd of the Faded]

Yes, I do mean the awesomely weidu-ized BGT. The worldmap fix is just a straight-up override and can easily be commented out in the tp2 -- unless the travel time fix(es) rely on that particular wmp.

 

But, to answer my own question: on its own and disregarding the possible worldmap issue, BG2FP can be applied before or after BGTw.

 

(I completely understand why it needs to be the first mod, though I've always considered it more of an unofficial patch than mod.)

[Jarno Mikkola]

Yes, I do mean the awesomely weidu-ized BGT. The worldmap fix is just a straight-up override and can easily be commented out in the tp2 -- unless the travel time fix(es) rely on that particular wmp.

Well, the fix in the .wmp makes one of the exits available on one of the maps, well that's what I remember hearing from it... but considering that there are people who try to generate a list of predetermined install order(see the BiG World Project and the BWS )... it's best for all parties conserned to try and bug out the one that the most people run out with. Not every which possible, cause there's only the 1.0... *10^301 possibilities of them. That ends up with a lot of zeroes.

 

Of course the BGT after the Fixpack is the recomendation of the BGT-Weidu maker, you are free to fly off the handle but you better try to recomend the install order to other people .. because they might need aid in the future with other mods and they mostly get turned down cause the weidu.log looks funny.

[Feyd of the Faded]

Asc64 is one of my favorite modders because he documents the hell out of stuff. One of his BGT docs explains why BG2FP goes before (a single, trivial bcs patch). Dead issue, though I'm still at a loss why both mods can't check on this considering how many other Stupid Player failsafes they have already.

[Jarno Mikkola]

though I'm still at a loss why both mods can't check on this considering how many other Stupid Player failsafes they have already.

Well, if we check every contingency, we would never get anything done.

And if we would suggest the above thing to be rectified, who's to say that the BGT Tweaks mod doesn't get installed before the Fixpack, which will then need contingency plan b2, then cause of the change the Bg1npcs needs contingency plan b101...

This all comes down to the number 42, the simpliest way is the best.