seanas Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 g3 is the home of the IESDP, so i'm hoping someone here can explain to me how lunumab.2da works. i realise that it's the table that controls when a class starts to get HLAs and how many per level they get; what i don't understand can best be shown by reproducing the table: 2DA V1.0 0 FIRST_LEVEL RATE CHANGE_LEVEL NEW_RATE MAGE 18 1 99 1 FIGHTER 20 1 99 1 CLERIC 22 1 99 1 THIEF 24 1 99 1 BARD 24 1 99 1 PALADIN 18 1 99 1 DRUID 15 1 99 1 RANGER 18 1 99 1 FIGHTER_MAGE 14 1 99 1 FIGHTER_CLERIC 41 1 99 1 FIGHTER_THIEF 41 1 99 1 FIGHTER_MAGE_THIEF 41 1 99 1 MAGE_THIEF 41 1 99 1 CLERIC_MAGE 41 1 99 1 CLERIC_THIEF 41 1 99 1 FIGHTER_DRUID 41 1 99 1 FIGHTER_MAGE_CLERIC 41 1 99 1 CLERIC_RANGER 41 1 99 1 SORCERER 18 1 99 1 MONK 20 1 30 1 MULTI2FIGHTER 14 1 99 1 MULTI2MAGE 14 1 99 1 MULTI2CLERIC 15 1 99 1 MULTI2RANGER 13 1 99 1 MULTI2DRUID 14 1 99 1 MULTI2THIEF 17 1 99 1 MULTI3FIGHTER 12 1 99 1 MULTI3MAGE 13 1 99 1 MULTI3THIEF 15 1 99 1 MULTI3CLERIC 13 1 99 1 ok, looking specifically at the four starting at DRUID: druids get HLAs form level 15 - ie 3 mill XP, rangers at lvl 18 (3 mill XP), F/M at lvl 14 (3 mill as well), and then - what i don't understand - F/C at lvl 41. the next 9 multiclasses all kick in at lvl 41 as well - that's between 12 mill and 18 mill XP *before* they get HLAs. which can't be right, because i've seen them kick in for multiclasses at more or less the right time. are these values all being overriden by the bottom 10 entries, which all start MULTI? and if so, if i'm a F/M/T, does this mean my HLAs kick in at lvl 12 (MUTLI3FIGHTER), lvl 13 (MULTI3MAGE) or lvl 15 (MULTI3THIEF)? i guess lvl 12, as if these MULTI values can override the crazy lvl 41s in the table, they can override other higher values, such as the lvl 13 or 15. yeah? Link to comment
Smoketest Posted October 15, 2004 Share Posted October 15, 2004 It looks like the 41 is a flag to the game telling it that the levels at which the various classes can gain HLAs is not necessarily the same, so look below for the breakdown by individual class. The Fighter and Mage in FIGHTER_MAGE both gain HLAs at level 14, so no need to specify the 41 flag. Turns out that the Cleric and Mage in CLERIC_MAGE both gain HLAs at level 13, but the 41 flag's presence suggests that maybe that wasn't so at one point, or that the person editing the 2da simply forgot to update, or didn't see it. Why 41? In an unmodded game of ToB, 40 is the maximum level, so 41 is a safe flag. They already use 99 as a flag that means "never". Link to comment
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