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#1 Zazei

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 10:13 AM

Hello!

I'm currently replaying SoA with a few of the mods I recently discovered or overlooked in the past, one of them is Angelo. I originally got the recommendation for playing it from Kulyok over at the Pocketplane forum when I was dropping a review for one of her mods. At any rate I'm having a bit of trouble balancing my party around Angelo. It's a bit amazing how it can be so hard to put together a party and fit everyone in when Baldur's gate 2 has a six player party compared to usual two companions in more modern Bioware games.

Before I get into all that though I wish to just thank you for the lovely mod and say I enjoyed Angelo a lot so far even if I'm not even half way through SoA. His conversations been both charming and adorable at times and there was especially one a brief while ago that made me laugh, it's the one when Angelo and the PC does talk about becoming lovers and Angelo list all the bad things he's done in his life yet in the end when the PC can bring up that she is the daughter of Bhaal he simply did not care at all. I can't remember the exact quote now but it was my favorite moment to date in the mod so far.

Eh, anyway I do have a small problem and feedback would be welcome.At the moment I'm at the stage when I realise I will have to go to Spellhold sooner or later and it has the potential to ruin everything when it came to my carefully planned party. It looks like this at the moment.

1: Enia, my character. Halfling assassin - Crossbow Archer
2: Angelo - Melee/Mage support
2: Korgan - Melee
3: Mazzy - Short bow Archer
5: Branwen - Kulyok's mod to serve as my cleric, I use her to buff the party and for summon spells before hitting things with a hammer.
6: Jan - Mage/thief. Was suppose to be the main mage and main thief but currently has less mage levels then Angelo. x)

The problem is that I love them all but there simply is no slot for Imoen. I already planned to give up Korgan for Seravok in TOB, it's not something I want to do but I rather have Seravok then the dwarf when it comes down to it. However there is no one in my party I want to sacrifice for Imoen. The problem with some characters like Imoen or Jaheira is that I used them so many times I more or less know all their dialog already and I did semi-want a party that would feel fresh and work together. Sadly the Angelo Readme state that Imoen is highly recommended and I'm not sure if it will mess up the romance or make the whole thing a little weird if I leave her behind.

So my question is simply how much impact it will have if I leave Imoen behind? It's something that's almost impossible to justify since it's the players own sister but I would mostly try to forget about her entirely if possible. At the worst case scenario I will have to sacrifice Jan and let Imoen take over the mage/thief role but I would prefer not to do so since Jan's dialog is quite amusing and he does talk a lot under normal quests and add things to the game that I have not seen before or mostly forgotten since I havn't used him in a long time. I realise it's a rather old mod and these forums might not be monitored too much anymore but it will probably take me a few more days to reach Spellhold so I figured it was worth a try. I would appreciate a response if you do see it and have time to answer.

Edited by Zazei, 29 October 2013 - 10:26 AM.


#2 Thimblerig

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 11:53 AM

Imoen and Angelo have a handful of short but poignant conversations travelling through Spellhold. She's in a bit of a fragile state when she first sees him - an old enemy(!) - and the dialogue reflects that. It brings out an interesting side to Angelo. I can't remember how much they talk after that.

I feel your pain at having to decide which character to leave out.

And yes, this is a lovely mod.

#3 Zazei

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 07:03 AM

If it's just Spellhold I might just skip Imoen this time and perhaps even Seravok later but we'll see. I'm almost considering taking Imoen temporary and then getting rid of her later to see the dialog but nott sure. I really do wish I could add a 7th member to the party. :)

Edited by Zazei, 30 October 2013 - 07:04 AM.


#4 Thimblerig

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 12:53 PM

Maybe... give Imoen a good shortbow and dose her up with Improved Haste? She won't be as good an archer as Mazzy, but it's something.

(If you wanted to tinker with Imoen's proficiency dots, you could open her file in Shadowkeeper, or I hear there's Level 1 NPCs...? )

Angelo has a doozy of a conversation with Sarevok, so keep the big guy at least a little while.

#5 Sister Vigilante

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 02:40 AM

So glad you enjoyed the mod ^_^ I remember exactly the conversation you're talking about (I think he says something like "I wouldn't give a toss if you were the offspring of twelve mad gods and Cyric's sister") and I was always fond of that myself, it's such typical guy thinking...so yeah, thanks a lot!

I may be biased, but while I have nothing against her, I never found Mazzy all that interesting, and Angelo doesn't banter with her much. I think Imoen's magic would more than make up for her being a weaker archer; but then again, with three mages there might not be enough scrolls to go around.

IIRC Angleo and Imoen also have extra talks in ToB, and Imoen interjects in a few of the Sarevok talks.
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#6 Zazei

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 10:59 AM

Thought I would let you know how it all turned out. I decided to cheat a little with the Level 1 NPC mod and change Imoen into a class that would better suit my party. It was a nice suggestion to replace Mazzy for her, with Imoen as a acher, or well pure thief, she could take over the role of using a shortbow quite nicely and I then replaced Korgan with Jaheira since there was no point keeping the former without the later. Only reason I wanted Korgan and Mazzy was for their conversaitons together, without one the other turned boring.

Still I don't regret it. Imoen and Angelo in Spellhold was nice and it also gave me a chance to see how Angelo reacted to Yoshimo's betrayal. Somehow I like the idea of Yoshimo turning on the party more then Saemon being behind the surprise myself. I imagine Saemon would have been watched more carefully on the boat then Yoshimo were. ^_^

Edited by Zazei, 01 November 2013 - 11:05 AM.


#7 Thimblerig

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 06:47 PM

I'm glad things worked out for you :-) I'll have to try a run-through with Korgan and Mazzy together sometime. (Don't usually run with Korgan - the things you miss out on.)

(I think he says something like "I wouldn't give a toss if you were the offspring of twelve mad gods and Cyric's sister



I don't remember that line exactly... Sarevok was speaking to Angelo of the old days, in a jocular and mocking fashion, Angelo compared Tamoko to a bell, and I'll leave the rest behind spoilers. Though my absolute favourite was, oddly enough, Angelo and Anomen in ToB - Angelo mocks Anomen, as many are tempted to do and, eventually, Anomen. mocks. back.

Edited by Thimblerig, 01 November 2013 - 06:50 PM.


#8 Sister Vigilante

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 04:58 AM

Oh sorry Thimblerig, the "Cyric's sister" talk is this one:

there was especially one a brief while ago that made me laugh, it's the one when Angelo and the PC does talk about becoming lovers and Angelo list all the bad things he's done in his life yet in the end when the PC can bring up that she is the daughter of Bhaal he simply did not care at all.


I certainly do remember the talks Angelo has with Sarevok in ToB ;) Just looked 'em up again, and...sure enough, not too bad, after all these years.

Anyway, likewise glad to hear things worked out!
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