Jump to content

Photo

Strange.... no change in the holy symbol


5 replies to this topic

#1 Deathsangel

Deathsangel
  • Members
  • 65 posts

Posted 02 September 2005 - 06:41 AM

I love oversight and I have it (logically) installed. For one thing I agree with the changes in the Cleric kits. However, I just got Anomen thus far he gets his symbol and he can't use it! Even now that Anomen no more has a wrong alignment. Is this perhaps an idea to add this aswell to this mod? Or has it not been done as you may have some trouble creating items? If so I would be glad to help. Or has it been done and causes the NPC-kit mod for trouble (Anomen is now a real Cleric of Helm/Fighter)

[edit] I made the changes already to the items for Helm and Talos (Helm is usable however for any aligment except chaotic due to tags, but since it is really for clerics now (mages and fighters could use it as well) it shouldn't be that bad.

Edited by Deathsangel, 02 September 2005 - 09:08 AM.


#2 Kish

Kish
  • Modders
  • 786 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling
  • Location:Rohnert Park, CA

Posted 02 September 2005 - 10:12 AM

I love oversight and I have it (logically) installed. For one thing I agree with the changes in the Cleric kits. However, I just got Anomen thus far he gets his symbol and he can't use it! Even now that Anomen no more has a wrong alignment. Is this perhaps an idea to add this aswell to this mod? Or has it not been done as you may have some trouble creating items? If so I would be glad to help.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Hm, that's very weird. Looking at the code, LG Anomen should certainly be able to use a Holy Symbol of Helm now. Who does the description of the Holy Symbol say can use it?

I'm trying to figure out what could have caused this. Did you install Oversight before the NPC Kits mod, or vice versa? Do you have any other mods installed?
"You are what you do. Choose again, and change."
--Miles Vorkosigan

"The really unforgivable acts are committed by calm men in beautiful green silk rooms, who deal death wholesale, by the shipload, without lust, or anger, or desire, or any redeeming emotion to excuse them but cold fear of some pretended future. But the crimes they hope to prevent in the future are imaginary. The ones they commit in the present--they are real."
--Aral Vorkosigan

#3 Deathsangel

Deathsangel
  • Members
  • 65 posts

Posted 04 September 2005 - 06:39 AM

The Wiedu.log (hold on for it is big...)

// Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods
// The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod
// ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // Component Name
~SETUP-DUNGEONBEGONE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Dungeon Be Gone V1.4
~SETUP-VIRTUE.TP2~ #0 #0 // Virtue
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ascension v1.41 (requires ToB)
~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #2 // Original Tougher Demogorgon (optional, requires ToB)
~SETUP-SUBRACE.TP2~ #0 #1 // Morituri Kit made by Aroc (Ioannis Mantzouranis, aroc@otenet.gr)
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #3 // Wizard Slayer kit MR bonus (8% + 4%/level)
~SETUP-ASHESOFEMBERS.TP2~ #0 #11 // New Armour (Scale, Banded, and Field Plate)
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Aerie Flirt Pack For SOA
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #2 // Aerie Flirt Pack For TOB
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #4 // Jaheira Flirt Pack for SOA
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #6 // Jaheira Flirt Pack for TOB
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #8 // Viconia Flirt Pack for SOA
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #10 // Viconia Flirt Pack for TOB
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #12 // Anomen Flirt Pack for SOA
~SETUP-NPCFLIRT.TP2~ #0 #14 // Anomen Flirt Pack for TOB
~SETUP-VALEN.TP2~ #0 #0 // Valen
~KELSEY.TP2~ #0 #0 // Kelsey v2.1: for BG2 - SoA
~SETUP-KELSEYTOB.TP2~ #0 #0 // Kelsey: ToB - Version 2
~SETUP-KELSEYTOB.TP2~ #0 #2 // Ascension-specific dialogue (Requires WeiDU Ascension, v1.4.12 or greater recommended)
~SETUP-KELSEYTOB.TP2~ #0 #3 // Install Default Kelsey portrait set by Wynne Lurty? (set 1 of 3)
~SETUP-GHARETH.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ghareth NPC (Requires Throne of Bhaal)
~SETUP-ALASSA.TP2~ #0 #0 // Alassa NPC
~SETUP-KIDO.TP2~ #0 #0 // Kido the Jester (Requires Throne of Bhaal)
~SETUP-KIDO.TP2~ #0 #1 // Do you wish to install Kido's default portrait by Plasmocat?
~SETUP-KIDO.TP2~ #0 #4 // Do you wish to install Ascension-specific dialogue?
~SETUP-HELL.TP2~ #0 #0 // Revised Hell Trials
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #15 // Kensai Ryu's Improved Crypt King
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #17 // Gebhard Blucher's Random City Encounters
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #22 // Smarter Dragons in SoA
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #27 // Anti-Paladin Kit
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #28 // Göran Rimén's Improved Nymphs
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #29 // Kensai Ryu's Improved Copper Coronet
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #30 // SimDing0's Improved Oasis
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #32 // Mike Barnes' Improved North Forest
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #1 // Alignment Correction (TOB Required)
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #5 // Cleric Kits
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #6 // Monk High Level Abilities
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #7 // Holy Liberator
~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #0 // NPC Kit Pack
~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #1 // Anomen Gains Helm Kit on Passing Knighthood Test
~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #2 // Anomen Gains Berserker Kit on Failing Knighthood Test
~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #4 // Add Red Wizard to Edwin's Kit Description
~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #5 // Give Imoen Adventurer Kit
~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #15 // Change Korgan's Kit to Battlerager
~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #16 // Give Mazzy a Proper Truesword of Arvoreen Kit
~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #18 // Give Nalia Adventurer Kit
~NPCKIT/NPCKIT.TP2~ #0 #28 // Give Sarevok a Proper Deathbringer Kit
~SETUP-D0QUEST.TP2~ #0 #0 // Additional Shadow Thieves' Content
~SETUP-D0QUEST.TP2~ #0 #1 // Alternative Harper/Xzar Plot
~SETUP-D0QUEST.TP2~ #0 #2 // Extended Reynald Sequence
~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #7 // Improved Twisted Rune
~SETUP-SAERILETH.TP2~ #0 #0 // Saerileth Romance Mod v8 (BG2:SoA & TOB NPC) created by nethrin and Sillara
~SETUP-ARIENA.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ariena the Half-orc (Requires Throne of Bhaal)
~SETUP-ARIENA.TP2~ #0 #1 // Do you wish to install Ariena's default portrait by Immortality/Khayman?
~SETUP-ARIENA.TP2~ #0 #3 // Do you wish to install the Grand Mastery Fix of James Schumacher?
~SETUP-OVERSIGHT.TP2~ #0 #4 // Improved Continuity (TOB Required)

The Holy symbol even said that it is only usable by Neutral people I changed it to what it should be in accordance with this mod (along side untagging the mages and fighters and kits of a few classes who also could use it if they had the right alignment)

#4 Deathsangel

Deathsangel
  • Members
  • 65 posts

Posted 04 September 2005 - 11:30 PM

As a sidenote/other question. Does CN Anomen still receive a holy symbol from oversight. The one of Talos or so? Just wondering for that makes a big difference for me in strategy and in the alignment that can use the holy symbol of Helm.


And as another side-note for the improved Continuity. In Sendai's lair you encounter the spectator beholder, but my Cavalier didn't trust Seamon so never went with him on a voyage and thus he never came to the Shanuagin city and never saw this beholder. Still I had to answer as if I knew him. Just one other answer asking the beholder who he is and he just giving a comment about being always summoned for stupid tasks and so (and other references to be made undone when one chooses this path) and it is fixed!

Edited by Deathsangel, 05 September 2005 - 12:33 AM.


#5 Idobek

Idobek

    Dust Bunny

  • Retired Gibberlings
  • 1001 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:England

Posted 05 September 2005 - 07:11 AM

Currently the NPC Kitpack doesn't touch the holy symbols. This means I get bug reports stating that Anomen can't use his holy symbol if he is a LG priest of Helm. However, Oversight's holy symbol changes should fix this problem. Install order shouldn't make a jot of difference. In short, I haven't a clue what's causing this problem, sorry.
Did you know G3 has secret forum rules?
Yep. They're generally of the nature 'don't annoy Idobek.'

#6 CamDawg

CamDawg

    ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD

  • Gibberling Poobah
  • 9724 posts
  • Gender:Not Telling

Posted 14 September 2005 - 03:31 PM

OK, I've looked at this six ways to Sunday.

The Oversight 'Cleric Kits' component makes three patches to the Helm Holy Symbol--it removes the Good and Evil restrictions, and adds a Chaotic restriction to the item to bring it in line with the alignment changes. Mods installed prior to 'Cleric Kits' could only prevent LG Anomen from using it if they made the item unusable by Lawful Characters. Also, mods installed after Cleric Kits would render it unusable by restricting it by either Good or Lawful. However, NPC Kit Pack and Quest Pack don't alter it, and I don't think Tactics or the two NPC mods change it either so I'm leaning towards on of the mods early in the stack. :/

Try running a file search for 'belt13.itm' in your BG2 directory. If one of the other mods has changed it, WeiDU will have backed it up to a mod directory. (You should find at least two copies--one in your override folder and one in oversight/backup/5.) That should help narrow it down.

Why is this Hypnotoad video so popu... ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD.




Reply to this topic



  


1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users