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Ok, I ended up building everything from scratch again, from the original install, and this time it actually worked even with the same mod list as above. I'm thinking something just got messed up in the previous install folder, probably more likely a fluke at this point than a real problem. Sorry for the false flag and thanks for the advice. EDIT: Also, I believe I am running TobEx v0026, but for some reason it is labeled as v0025 in WeiDU.

I've explored reducing the mod list even more, but even then the game hangs with the SCS Initialize component installed. Below is a minimal mod list under which it still fails. // Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods // The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod // ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name [ : Version] ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #100 // TobEx - Core: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #105 // No Spell Interruption On Zero Damage: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #111 // Disable Silence On Charm: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #113 // Remain Hidden On Pickpocket Success [C]: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #115 // Dialogue Greeting Subtitles: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #116 // Enable Animation Attack Sounds: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #117 // Universal Four Inventory Weapon Slots: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #118 // Subtitles For Standard Soundsets: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #123 // Enable Auto-Pause On All Screens: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #124 // Make All Attack Animations Genuine Attacks: Beta 0025 ~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ascension v1.41 (requires ToB) ~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #1 // Tougher Abazigal (optional, requires ToB) ~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #2 // Original Tougher Demogorgon (optional, requires ToB) ~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #3 // Tougher Gromnir (optional, requires ToB) ~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #4 // Tougher Illasera (optional, requires ToB) ~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #5 // Tougher Yaga-Shura (optional, requires ToB) ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // BG2 Fixpack - Core Fixes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #1000 // BG2 Fixpack - Game Text Update -> GTU Light (by Wisp): v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // BETA Core Fixes (please check the readme!): v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #100 // Party Gets XP for Sending Keldorn to Reconcile With Maria: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #101 // Improved Spell Animations: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #102 // Cromwell's Forging Actually Takes a Day: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #103 // Mixed-Use Dagger Fixes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #104 // Ghreyfain's Holy Symbol Fixes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #106 // Giants Receive Penalties When Attacking Halflings, Dwarves, and Gnomes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #107 // Remove Dual-Classing Restriction from Archers and Stalkers: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #110 // Additional Script Fixes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #111 // Bard Song Fixes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #112 // Wizard Slayers Cause Miscast Magic on Ranged Attacks: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #113 // Additional Alignment Fixes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #115 // Paws from Shapeshifting Can Not Be Dispelled: v10 ~ASCENSIONFIX.TP2~ #0 #0 // Fix Ascension Slayer dialogue ~SETUP-BGT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Baldur's Gate Trilogy - Core: 1.18 (28 Apr 13) ~SETUP-BGTMUSIC.TP2~ #0 #1 // Baldur's Gate Trilogy - Music -> Hybrid Baldur's Gate/Shadows of Amn/Throne of Bhaal Music ~STRATAGEMS/SETUP-STRATAGEMS.TP2~ #0 #1000 // Initialise mod (all other components require this): v30

I've explored reducing the mod list even further, but it still hangs on a black screen with the SCS Initialize component. Here is a minimal mod list under which the game still fails: // Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods // The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod // ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [Subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name [ : Version] ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #100 // TobEx - Core: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #105 // No Spell Interruption On Zero Damage: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #111 // Disable Silence On Charm: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #113 // Remain Hidden On Pickpocket Success [C]: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #115 // Dialogue Greeting Subtitles: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #116 // Enable Animation Attack Sounds: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #117 // Universal Four Inventory Weapon Slots: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #118 // Subtitles For Standard Soundsets: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #123 // Enable Auto-Pause On All Screens: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #124 // Make All Attack Animations Genuine Attacks: Beta 0025 ~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ascension v1.41 (requires ToB) ~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #1 // Tougher Abazigal (optional, requires ToB) ~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #2 // Original Tougher Demogorgon (optional, requires ToB) ~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #3 // Tougher Gromnir (optional, requires ToB) ~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #4 // Tougher Illasera (optional, requires ToB) ~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #5 // Tougher Yaga-Shura (optional, requires ToB) ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // BG2 Fixpack - Core Fixes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #1000 // BG2 Fixpack - Game Text Update -> GTU Light (by Wisp): v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // BETA Core Fixes (please check the readme!): v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #100 // Party Gets XP for Sending Keldorn to Reconcile With Maria: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #101 // Improved Spell Animations: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #102 // Cromwell's Forging Actually Takes a Day: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #103 // Mixed-Use Dagger Fixes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #104 // Ghreyfain's Holy Symbol Fixes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #106 // Giants Receive Penalties When Attacking Halflings, Dwarves, and Gnomes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #107 // Remove Dual-Classing Restriction from Archers and Stalkers: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #110 // Additional Script Fixes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #111 // Bard Song Fixes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #112 // Wizard Slayers Cause Miscast Magic on Ranged Attacks: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #113 // Additional Alignment Fixes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #115 // Paws from Shapeshifting Can Not Be Dispelled: v10 ~ASCENSIONFIX.TP2~ #0 #0 // Fix Ascension Slayer dialogue ~SETUP-BGT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Baldur's Gate Trilogy - Core: 1.18 (28 Apr 13) ~SETUP-BGTMUSIC.TP2~ #0 #1 // Baldur's Gate Trilogy - Music -> Hybrid Baldur's Gate/Shadows of Amn/Throne of Bhaal Music ~STRATAGEMS/SETUP-STRATAGEMS.TP2~ #0 #1000 // Initialise mod (all other components require this): v30

To add more information, I tried uninstalling BG2Tweaks to see if there was incompatibility there, but the game still crashes. I've copied this new Weidu below. At this point, there aren't very many other mods installed. That should help narrow down the problem. Hello, I'm having the game crash everytime I start the game with SCS v30 installed. It crashes right after I try loading a game or after clicking "New Game". The screen becomes black, I can hear an error sound, and basically hangs and I have to terminate the process. I've rolled back my mods, and narrowed it down to just the Initialize mod component of SCS. The game crashes as described with this component, but works fine without this component. Attached is my Weidu log. Perhaps there is some incompatibility? I should also note that I've run the game fine previously with older versions when SCS I and II were separate, with just about identical other mods. // Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods // The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod // ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [Subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name [ : Version] ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #100 // TobEx - Core: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #105 // No Spell Interruption On Zero Damage: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #111 // Disable Silence On Charm: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #113 // Remain Hidden On Pickpocket Success [C]: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #115 // Dialogue Greeting Subtitles: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #116 // Enable Animation Attack Sounds: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #117 // Universal Four Inventory Weapon Slots: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #118 // Subtitles For Standard Soundsets: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #123 // Enable Auto-Pause On All Screens: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #124 // Make All Attack Animations Genuine Attacks: Beta 0025 ~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ascension v1.41 (requires ToB) ~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #1 // Tougher Abazigal (optional, requires ToB) ~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #2 // Original Tougher Demogorgon (optional, requires ToB) ~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #3 // Tougher Gromnir (optional, requires ToB) ~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #4 // Tougher Illasera (optional, requires ToB) ~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #5 // Tougher Yaga-Shura (optional, requires ToB) ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // BG2 Fixpack - Core Fixes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #1000 // BG2 Fixpack - Game Text Update -> GTU Light (by Wisp): v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // BETA Core Fixes (please check the readme!): v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #100 // Party Gets XP for Sending Keldorn to Reconcile With Maria: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #101 // Improved Spell Animations: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #102 // Cromwell's Forging Actually Takes a Day: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #103 // Mixed-Use Dagger Fixes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #104 // Ghreyfain's Holy Symbol Fixes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #106 // Giants Receive Penalties When Attacking Halflings, Dwarves, and Gnomes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #107 // Remove Dual-Classing Restriction from Archers and Stalkers: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #110 // Additional Script Fixes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #111 // Bard Song Fixes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #112 // Wizard Slayers Cause Miscast Magic on Ranged Attacks: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #113 // Additional Alignment Fixes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #115 // Paws from Shapeshifting Can Not Be Dispelled: v10 ~ASCENSIONFIX.TP2~ #0 #0 // Fix Ascension Slayer dialogue ~SETUP-BGT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Baldur's Gate Trilogy - Core: 1.18 (28 Apr 13) ~SETUP-BGTMUSIC.TP2~ #0 #1 // Baldur's Gate Trilogy - Music -> Hybrid Baldur's Gate/Shadows of Amn/Throne of Bhaal Music ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ice Island Level Two Restoration: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #1 // The Mysterious Vial: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #2 // Additional Elminster Encounter: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #3 // Angelo Notices Shar-teel: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #4 // Finishable Kagain Caravan Quest: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #5 // Coran and the Wyverns: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #6 // Kivan and Tazok: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #7 // Branwen and Tranzig: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #9 // Appropriate Albert and Rufie Reward: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #10 // Place Entar Silvershield in His Home: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #11 // Scar and the Sashenstar's Daughter: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #12 // Quoningar, the Cleric: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #13 // Shilo Chen and the Ogre-Magi: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #14 // Edie, the Merchant League Applicant: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #16 // Creature Corrections: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #17 // Creature Restorations: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #18 // Creature Name Restorations: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #19 // Minor Dialogue Restorations: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #20 // Audio Restorations: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #21 // Store, Tavern and Inn Fixes and Restorations: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #22 // Item Corrections and Restorations: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #23 // Area Corrections and Restorations: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #24 // Permanent Corpses: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #27 // Sarevok's Diary Corrections: v13_120121 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Kidnapping of Boo by Cliffette: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #1 // The Suna Seni/Valygar Relationship: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #2 // Kalah and What He Was Promised: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #3 // "Cat and Mouse" (Bodhi hunts you in Spellhold) by Ghreyfain: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #4 // Gorje Hilldark and the Extended Illithium Quest: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #5 // The Pai'Na/Spider's Bane Quest: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #6 // Restored Crooked Crane Inn: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #7 // Restored Encounters: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #8 // Artemis Entreri in Bodhi's Lair: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #9 // Corrected "Xzar's Creations": v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #12 // Item Restorations: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #15 // NPC Portrait Restorations: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #16 // Corrected BAMs and Scripts: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #17 // Corrected Character Names and Biographies: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #18 // Restored Minor Dialogs: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #19 // Restored Bhaalspawn Powers, by David Gaider: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #24 // Sarevok's Remorse: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #21 // Throne of Bhaal Minor Restorations: v19 ~SETUP-ITEMUPGRADE.TP2~ #0 #10 // Shadows Of Amn Item Upgrades -> Revised consistency plus version: v40 ~SETUP-ITEMUPGRADE.TP2~ #0 #11 // Throne Of Bhaal Item Upgrades -> Revised consistency plus version: v40 ~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #26 // Fighter-Class Archer Kit ~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #27 // Anti-Paladin Kit ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #60 // Weapon Animation Tweaks: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #90 // Disable Portrait Icons Added by Equipped Items: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #110 // Icon Improvements: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #130 // Force All Dialogue to Pause Game: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #140 // Fix Boo's Squeak: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1010 // More Interjections: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1020 // Alter HP Triggers for NPC Wounded Dialogues: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1070 // Improved Multi-Player Kick-out Dialogues: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1080 // Add Bags of Holding: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1090 // Exotic Item Pack: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1120 // Stores Sell Higher Stacks of Items: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1130 // Reputation Resets in BG2 (BGT Only): v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1150 // Shapeshifter Rebalancing: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1160 // Multiple Strongholds (Baldurdash) -> No Restrictions (Baldurdash): v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1170 // Bonus Merchants (Baldurdash): v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #1220 // Allow Cromwell to Upgrade Watcher's Keep Items: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2040 // Universal Clubs: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2090 // Change Experience Point Cap -> Remove Experience Cap: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2100 // Allow Thieving and Stealth in Heavy Armor: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2120 // Allow Arcane Spellcasting in Heavy Armor: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2140 // Expanded Dual-Class Options: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2151 // Wear Multiple Protection Items -> No Restrictions: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2161 // Alter Weapon Proficiency System -> BG-Style Weapon Proficiencies, With Weapon Styles (the bigg): v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2170 // Cast Spells from Scrolls (and Other Items) at Character Level: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2200 // Multi-Class Grandmastery (Weimer): v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2210 // True Grandmastery (Baldurdash): v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2240 // Un-Nerfed THAC0 Table: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2250 // Un-Nerfed Sorcerer Spell Progression Table: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2260 // Alter Mage Spell Progression Table -> Un-Nerfed Table (Blucher): v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2270 // Alter Bard Spell Progression Table -> Un-Nerfed Table (Blucher): v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2280 // Alter Cleric Spell Progression Table -> Un-Nerfed Table (Blucher): v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2293 // Alter Druid Spell and Level Progression Tables -> Use Cleric Level Progression Changes With Un-Nerfed Druid Spell Table (Blucher): v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2300 // Triple-Class HLA Tables: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2330 // Remove Delay for Magical Traps (Ardanis/GeN1e): v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #2340 // Remove Summoning Cap for Celestials (Ardanis/GeN1e): v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3000 // Higher HP on Level Up -> Maximum: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3010 // Maximum HP for NPCs (the bigg) -> For All Creatures in Game: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3031 // Easy Spell Learning -> 100% Learn Spells and No Maximum Cap: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3040 // Make Bags of Holding Bottomless: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3060 // Remove "You Must Gather Your Party..." Sound (Weimer): v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3080 // Unlimited Ammo Stacking: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3090 // Unlimited Gem and Jewelry Stacking: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3100 // Unlimited Potion Stacking: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3110 // Unlimited Scroll Stacking: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3122 // Happy Patch (Party NPCs do not complain about reputation) -> NPCs Are Always Neutral About Reputation (Anomaly): v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3125 // Neutral Characters Make Happy Comments at Mid-Range Reputation: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3170 // No Drow Avatars On Party In Underdark: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3183 // Romance Cheats: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #3200 // Sellable Items (Icelus): v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4000 // Adjust Evil joinable NPC reaction rolls: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4031 // Consistent Stats: Edwin -> Use BG2 Values: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4041 // Consistent Stats: Jaheira -> Use BG2 Values: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4050 // Change Jaheira to Neutral Good: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4061 // Consistent Stats: Minsc -> Use BG2 Values: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4071 // Consistent Stats: Viconia -> Use BG2 Values: v12 ~BG2_TWEAKS/SETUP-BG2_TWEAKS.TP2~ #0 #4100 // Change Korgan to Neutral Evil: v12 ~STRATAGEMS/SETUP-STRATAGEMS.TP2~ #0 #1000 // Initialise mod (all other components require this): v30

Hello, I'm having the game crash everytime I start the game with SCS v30 installed. It crashes right after I try loading a game or after clicking "New Game". The screen becomes black, I can hear an error sound, and basically hangs and I have to terminate the process. I've rolled back my mods, and narrowed it down to just the Initialize mod component of SCS. The game crashes as described with this component, but works fine without this component. Attached is my Weidu log. Perhaps there is some incompatibility? I should also note that I've run the game fine previously with older versions when SCS I and II were separate, with just about identical other mods. // Log of Currently Installed WeiDU Mods // The top of the file is the 'oldest' mod // ~TP2_File~ #language_number #component_number // [Subcomponent Name -> ] Component Name [ : Version] ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #100 // TobEx - Core: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #105 // No Spell Interruption On Zero Damage: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #111 // Disable Silence On Charm: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #113 // Remain Hidden On Pickpocket Success [C]: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #115 // Dialogue Greeting Subtitles: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #116 // Enable Animation Attack Sounds: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #117 // Universal Four Inventory Weapon Slots: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #118 // Subtitles For Standard Soundsets: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #123 // Enable Auto-Pause On All Screens: Beta 0025 ~TOBEX/TOBEX.TP2~ #0 #124 // Make All Attack Animations Genuine Attacks: Beta 0025 ~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ascension v1.41 (requires ToB) ~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #1 // Tougher Abazigal (optional, requires ToB) ~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #2 // Original Tougher Demogorgon (optional, requires ToB) ~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #3 // Tougher Gromnir (optional, requires ToB) ~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #4 // Tougher Illasera (optional, requires ToB) ~SETUP-ASCENSION.TP2~ #0 #5 // Tougher Yaga-Shura (optional, requires ToB) ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #0 // BG2 Fixpack - Core Fixes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #1000 // BG2 Fixpack - Game Text Update -> GTU Light (by Wisp): v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #3 // BETA Core Fixes (please check the readme!): v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #100 // Party Gets XP for Sending Keldorn to Reconcile With Maria: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #101 // Improved Spell Animations: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #102 // Cromwell's Forging Actually Takes a Day: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #103 // Mixed-Use Dagger Fixes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #104 // Ghreyfain's Holy Symbol Fixes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #106 // Giants Receive Penalties When Attacking Halflings, Dwarves, and Gnomes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #107 // Remove Dual-Classing Restriction from Archers and Stalkers: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #110 // Additional Script Fixes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #111 // Bard Song Fixes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #112 // Wizard Slayers Cause Miscast Magic on Ranged Attacks: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #113 // Additional Alignment Fixes: v10 ~BG2FIXPACK/SETUP-BG2FIXPACK.TP2~ #0 #115 // Paws from Shapeshifting Can Not Be Dispelled: v10 ~ASCENSIONFIX.TP2~ #0 #0 // Fix Ascension Slayer dialogue ~SETUP-BGT.TP2~ #0 #0 // Baldur's Gate Trilogy - Core: 1.18 (28 Apr 13) ~SETUP-BGTMUSIC.TP2~ #0 #1 // Baldur's Gate Trilogy - Music -> Hybrid Baldur's Gate/Shadows of Amn/Throne of Bhaal Music ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #0 // Ice Island Level Two Restoration: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #1 // The Mysterious Vial: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #2 // Additional Elminster Encounter: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #3 // Angelo Notices Shar-teel: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #4 // Finishable Kagain Caravan Quest: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #5 // Coran and the Wyverns: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #6 // Kivan and Tazok: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #7 // Branwen and Tranzig: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #9 // Appropriate Albert and Rufie Reward: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #10 // Place Entar Silvershield in His Home: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #11 // Scar and the Sashenstar's Daughter: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #12 // Quoningar, the Cleric: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #13 // Shilo Chen and the Ogre-Magi: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #14 // Edie, the Merchant League Applicant: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #16 // Creature Corrections: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #17 // Creature Restorations: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #18 // Creature Name Restorations: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #19 // Minor Dialogue Restorations: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #20 // Audio Restorations: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #21 // Store, Tavern and Inn Fixes and Restorations: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #22 // Item Corrections and Restorations: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #23 // Area Corrections and Restorations: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #24 // Permanent Corpses: v13_120121 ~BG1UB/SETUP-BG1UB.TP2~ #0 #27 // Sarevok's Diary Corrections: v13_120121 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #0 // The Kidnapping of Boo by Cliffette: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #1 // The Suna Seni/Valygar Relationship: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #2 // Kalah and What He Was Promised: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #3 // "Cat and Mouse" (Bodhi hunts you in Spellhold) by Ghreyfain: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #4 // Gorje Hilldark and the Extended Illithium Quest: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #5 // The Pai'Na/Spider's Bane Quest: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #6 // Restored Crooked Crane Inn: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #7 // Restored Encounters: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #8 // Artemis Entreri in Bodhi's Lair: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #9 // Corrected "Xzar's Creations": v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #12 // Item Restorations: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #15 // NPC Portrait Restorations: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #16 // Corrected BAMs and Scripts: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #17 // Corrected Character Names and Biographies: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #18 // Restored Minor Dialogs: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #19 // Restored Bhaalspawn Powers, by David Gaider: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #24 // Sarevok's Remorse: v19 ~SETUP-UB.TP2~ #0 #21 // Throne of Bhaal Minor Restorations: v19 ~SETUP-ITEMUPGRADE.TP2~ #0 #10 // Shadows Of Amn Item Upgrades -> Revised consistency plus version: v40 ~SETUP-ITEMUPGRADE.TP2~ #0 #11 // Throne Of Bhaal Item Upgrades -> Revised consistency plus version: v40 ~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #26 // Fighter-Class Archer Kit ~SETUP-TACTICS.TP2~ #0 #27 // Anti-Paladin Kit ~STRATAGEMS/SETUP-STRATAGEMS.TP2~ #0 #1000 // Initialise mod (all other components require this): v30

Thanks for the response Demi. I don't want you to think I am making a criticism of any of your changes; I have seen enough of the changes here and in IR to trust your changes are reasonable, creative, and are an improvement. Rather, I was simply pointing out that there is a different approach to a modding that some people like at least some of the time, which is to play an only lightly tweaked version with all the original components "intact". The suggestion was simply to make SR applicable to both types of approaches. Of course, as you and Arda say, it is tightly coupled and not so easy to do. Therefore, forget about the suggestion and keep on doing what you are doing!

Yes absolutely I understand. I am merely posing this as a suggestion, and qualifying that I don't know if it is reasonbly easy to do. I leave it up the mod authors to figure out if it is worth their while. Yes, agreed, I am not advocating drawing out the release just for this, and denying people the fun of a new version. But if it is reasonable in time constraints, then it is maybe worth considering.

That is missing the point. I believe you that SR can be considered "not that drastic", especially when compared to some ridiculous mods out there which add hundreds of haphazard spells. However, the point is not whether the changes themselves are good. It is that many people still want to experience a faithful representation of the vanilla game. Sure, there are problems with the game, as any. But that is part of the original experience, which many still like to retain. That is not to take anything away from those who want to have a modded spellbook with entirely new interesting and balanced spells - that is a perfectly valid and enjoyable way to play. I am not against that mode, in fact many including myself would play like that some of the time, on some playthroughs. But it is a different way to play than the original experience, which there is value in retaining. So drastic or not is beside the point. The point is that the addition, removal, or radical reworking of the spells original spells leads to a different experience. A spellbook with new or removed spells just isn't really the same as the original game anymore. Now, you could say that I should simply play without this mod then. That is perfectly fine. However, I truly appreciate the effort that has gone into revising the spells in the core spellbook. I think the balancing and tweaking of core spells done in this mod in a comprehensive way is a very valuable contribution to the modding community, one that I don't see any other mod undertaking. It would be just such a pity though if people couldn't take that aspect of the mod, without having to alter the vanilla experience too much. If it's not that hard to do, separating some of these changes into two components which could satisfy both ways of playing would really make this mod more versatile and appealing, and filling an important niche in the modding community. That's all I'm suggesting really.

My point is not on the semantics; I think it's clear what I am getting at with those terms, and generally most would agree that "overhauling" something sounds like a more in-depth process than "revising" something. There are also a multitude of other spells that are deleted or added. What if somebody is looking to simply have a more balanced and refined experience playing with the vanilla spells? Where the weak spells are at least worth considering and the overpowered spells are bit more balanced, but the overall experience can be reasonably claimed to still be a faithful version of the base game? This approach means that SR will no longer be for them. I wonder how difficult it really would be to simply separate out the more drastic changes into a separate component? If it's reasonably attainable, then it would certainly cater to far more people and achieve the best of both worlds.

Well, which changes would you split... cause some of the stuff can't be, really should you know. I don't have any specific ones in mind, and I'm not familiar enough with the details to presume specific suggestions. However, a general structure might go like this: 1. The "Revisions" component: A mod component consisting of all lighter revisions and tweaks to existing spells. 2. The "Overhaul" component: A separate component that includes all deletions, additions, and heavier changes to spells. Component 2 will definitely come after component 1 and therefore might very well overwrite parts of component 1. For example, a spell might be only tweaked in component 1, but if component 2 were also installed, the spell might be deleted entirely.

I know I'm very late to this process, and I will qualify that I haven't played with SR yet. I will understand if you wish to ignore my comment. However, looking through the readme for V3 and the planned changes for V4, it strikes me that V4 really goes much further than V3 in its scope of changes in terms of removing spells entirely, changing access to spells, and adding entirely new ones. This change in scope should be carefully considered, as it can be considered a disincentive to install for some people, myself included. It might be useful to distinguish between two approaches to a spell mod: a spell revision mod, and a spell overhaul mod. The first tweaks spells to correct obvious imbalances and weaknesses, but is largely true to the vanilla experience. The second seeks to radically change a number of spells, with multiple deletions and additions, such that playing with it would be a different experience in terms of spellcasting. (Another angle is whether I could load a save game in the middle of the game, with a bunch of learned spells, and expect it to remain consistent with the mod, or whether I need to start a new game to really have it work as intended). There is nothing wrong with either approach, of course, but a lot of people really are only looking for a revision mod, not an overhaul mod (myself included). The name of this mod might suggest that it should be the former case, editing with a light touch, so people might get the wrong idea if it begins to present a much larger scope of changes. Also, I might hypothesize that a light-revision mod has a better chance of being widely accepted and becoming a "must-have" mod and part of the definitive experience, compared to a heavier overhaul mod. Of course, there is always the response: "Don't install this mod then if it's not what you are looking for". I can certainly accept that, but I really wish there were a mod that only lightly revised spells in a comprehensive way, while keeping true to the vanilla experience. I certainly hope this mod could fill that role. A concrete suggestion is to allow the mod to be customized by components - have a core set of revisions that are lighter in touch, and an optional set of more thorough changes. That would certainly increase the versatility of the mod significantly and broaden the user base. I fully understand that this is time-consuming and difficult and may be infeasible - nonetheless, that is a suggestion. I hope you find this comment useful, it comes from being genuinely interested in the mod and hoping that it succeeds in filling a role that a lot of gamers like myself are looking for.